For Our God is a Consuming Fire
Themistoklis Papaioannou lives in Athens, and is a member of Middleton Monthly Meeting of Ohio Yearly Meeting, and of Athens Christian Friends. His approach to Conservative Quakerism comes with a point of view familiar with the history and theology of the Eastern Orthodox tradition. Here he shares some comments about the differences between the Eastern and Western Christian church's views of Heaven and Hell, and how that colors our views of Eternity. Look over Themis's website at C.Q.I.M.
There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in
purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus,
which was laid at his gate, full of sores, And desiring to be fed with the
crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked
his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the
angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in Hell
he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus
in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send
Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue;
for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in
thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but
now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us
and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence
to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. --Luke
16:19-16:26
KJV
People keep asking me about Hell, citing the parable in Luke
16:23. ("Abraham’s bosom" is used in a symbolic sense for the afterlife of
believers.) Some in the West believe in a sadistic god, who perpetually
tortures people in Hell. But Christians in the East always knew what the
Bible's references to Heaven and Hell meant. They never believed in a sadistic
god. The early Church writers teach that God is both Heaven and Hell, according
to each person's righteousness. He loves everyone and He will embrace everyone,
but not everyone will see Him as light. Some people will be unable to tolerate
His Love and they will suffer, because they have learned only to hate.
When we say that God is both light and fire, Protestants often ask us: "Where
did you find that in the Bible?" Even though they know that it's irrational to
believe that God tortures people, they need quotes from the Bible to be
convinced. Of course, we Christians don't need to see something written in the
Bible in order to believe it. But we are going to present a few biblical
passages that support our opinion. Thus, the Protestants will be able to
abandon the western, blasphemous notion of a sadistic God, and they will see
that the teachings of the Lord's Church are always true. Let's start with Isaiah
33:
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who
among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? Who among us shall dwell with the
everlasting burnings? He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he
that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of
bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes
from seeing evil. He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the
munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure. --Isaiah
33:14-16
Notice who will dwell with the everlasting burnings! Not only the unjust, but
the righteous as well! Do you see that they are the same? What is feared by
sinners is considered “high” by the righteous. And what is the "devouring fire?"
For our God is a consuming fire. --Hebrews 12:29 KJV
This "fiery" God is "light" for other people. According to Isaiah:
For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood
brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine
exactors righteousness. Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting
nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation,
and thy gates Praise. The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for
brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee
an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. Thy sun shall no more go down;
neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting
light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.--Isaiah 60:17-20
The word "glory" (Greek: doxa) means "brightness." Paul writes:
There is one glory of
the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one
star differeth from another star in glory --1 Corinthians 15:41
But the passage from Isaiah mentions materials. It is obvious that God will
replace the lesser materials with materials that are more valuable and more
able to endure fire. What does this mean? The apostle Paul explains:
Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. --1 Corinthians 3:12-15
It is important that in this passage various materials symbolize
each person's actions. Good actions are like valuable materials that can't be
harmed by fire. On the other hand, evil actions are mentioned as materials that
can be burned. Then, the fire of God's grace will burn the unworthy deeds and
he who committed them shall be damaged, because he won't have anything valuable
to show. Both good and evil actions, both righteous and unjust men will go
through this fire... The prophet Zechariah says that the fire purifies valuable
metals. The fire doesn't burn them, but it cleans them and it illuminates them.
When a metal stays in the fire, it too becomes bright as fire. But the fire
also makes wood black and burns it:
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as
silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my
name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say,
The LORD is my God. --Zechariah 13:9
The next passage also shows us that the righteous and the unjust will go
through the same flame. Although the sinners will feel burned by the fire, the
just shall rest in the fire of the presence and the glory (brightness) of the
Lord:
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power. --2 Thessalonians 1:7-9
In the Revelation to John, we read about the river of the
Grace of God that springs from His throne. This river is the river of life for
the righteous:
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding
out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and
on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve
manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree
were for the healing of the nations. --Revelation 22:1-2
But this river is also described as "fire":
A fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him... --Daniel 7:10
We see the difference between how the righteous and how the unjust perceive the
Grace of God. This is because, according to the author of the Psalms, the fire
of the Lord is divided by Him into illuminating and burning energy:
The voice of the LORD divideth the flames of fire. (Psalm 29:7; Masoretic Text)
When that day comes, are we going to feel God's grace as "fire" or as "light?"
The decision is ours… (Orthodox Outlet for Dogmatic Enquiries)
I believe that the Greek Orthodox Church explains best the
truth about Heaven and Hell.
On the Last Sunday of Lent "we commemorate the Second and Incorruptible Coming
of our Lord Jesus Christ." The expression "we commemorate" of the Book of
Saints confirms that our Church, as the Body of Christ, re-enacts in its
worship the Second Coming of Christ as an event and not just something that is
historically expected. The reason is that we are transported to the Celestial Kingdom,
to meta-history. It is in this Orthodox perspective, that the subject of Paradise
and Hell is approached.
In the Gospels (Matthew, Ch.25), mention is made of "the kingdom" and of "eternal fire." In this excerpt, which is
cited during the Liturgy of this Sunday, the "kingdom" is the divine
destination of mankind. The "fire" is "prepared" for the devil and his angels
(demons), not because God desired it, but because they are impenitent. The "kingdom"
is "prepared" for those who remain faithful to the will of God.
"Kingdom" (the uncreated glory) is Paradise. "Fire" (eternal) is Hell (eternal Hell, "everlasting punishment," 25:46). At the beginning of history, God invites man
into Paradise, into a communion with His uncreated Grace. At the end of
history, man has to face Paradise and Hell. What this means, we shall see,
further down. We do however stress that it is one of the central subjects of
our faith--it
is Orthodox Christianity's philosopher's stone.
Mention of Paradise and Hell in the New Testament is frequent. In Luke 23:43,
Christ says to the robber on the cross: "Today you will be with me in paradise."
However, the robber also refers to Paradise in Luke 23:42, when he says: "Remember
me, Lord … in your kingdom." According to Theofylaktos of Bulgaria (P 123,
1106), "…for the robber was in Paradise, in other words, the kingdom." The
Apostle Paul (2 Corinthians 12: 3-4) confesses that, while still in this
lifetime, he was "swept up to Paradise and heard unspoken words, which are
inappropriate for man to repeat." In Revelations, we read: "To the victor, I
shall give him to eat of the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of my God."
(Rev.2-7). And Arethas of Caesaria interprets: "Paradise is understood to be
the blessed and eternal life." (PG 106, 529). Paradise-eternal life-kingdom of
God, are all related.
References on Hell include Matthew 25:46 ("to eternal damnation"), 25:41 ("eternal
fire"), 25:30 ("the outermost darkness"), 5:22 ("the place of fire"). 1 John 4:18
("…for fear contains Hell"). These are ways that express what we mean by "Hell."
Paradise and Hell are not two different places. This is an idolatrous concept.
They signify two different situations or ways, which originate from the same
uncreated source, and are perceived by man as two different experiences. Or,
more precisely, they are the same experience, except that they are perceived
differently by man, depending on man's internal state. This experience is the
sight of Christ inside the uncreated light of His divinity, of His "glory." From
the moment of His Second Coming, through to all eternity, all people will be
seeing Christ in His uncreated light. That is when
Those who worked good deeds in their lifetime will go towards the resurrection of their life, while those who worked evil in their lifetime will go towards the resurrection of judgment. (John 5:29)
In the presence of Christ, mankind will be separated ("sheep"
and "goats," to His right and His left). In other words, they will be discerned
in two separate groups: those who will be looking upon Christ as Paradise (the "exceeding
good, the radiant") and those who will be looking upon Christ as Hell ("the
all-consuming fire," Hebrews 12:29). Paradise and Hell are the same reality.
This is what is depicted in the portrayal of the Second Coming. From Christ a
river flows forth: it is radiant like a golden light at the upper end of it,
where the saints are. At its lower end, the same river is fiery, and it is in
that part of the river that the demons and the unrepentant ("the never
repentant" according to a hymn) are depicted. This is why in Luke 2:34 we read
that Christ stands "as the fall and the resurrection of many." Christ becomes
the resurrection into eternal life, for those who accepted Him and who followed
the suggested means of healing the heart; and to those who rejected Him, He
becomes their demise and their Hell.
Patristic testimonies:
Consequently, Paradise and Hell are not a reward or a punishment (condemnation), but the way that we individually experience the sight of Christ, depending on the condition of our heart. God doesn’t punish in essence, although, for educative purposes, the Scripture does mention punishment. The more spiritual that one becomes, the better he can comprehend the language of the Scripture and our traditions. Man's condition (clean or unclean, repentant or unrepentant) is the factor that determines the acceptance of the Light as "Paradise" or "Hell." The important thing, however, is that not all people respond to this invitation of Christ, and that is why not everyone partakes in the same way of His uncreated glory. This is taught by Christ, in the parable of the rich and the poor Lazarus (Luke16:19-31). Man refuses Christ's offer, he becomes God's enemy and rejects the redemption offered by Christ (which is a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, because it is within the Holy Spirit that we accept the calling of Christ). This is the "never repentant" person referred to in the hymn. God "never bears enmity," the blessed Chrysostom observes; it is we who become His enemies; we are the ones who reject Him. The unrepentant man becomes demonized, because he has chosen to. God doesn't want this. Gregory Palamas says: "For this was not My pre-existing will; I did not create you for this purpose; I did not prepare the pyre for you. This undying pyre was pre-fired for the demons who bear the unchanging trait of evil, to whom your own unrepentant opinion attracted you." And, "The co-habitation with mischievous angels is arbitrary (voluntary)." (ibid.) In other words, it is something that is freely chosen by man.
Both the rich man and Lazarus were looking upon the same reality, i.e., God in His uncreated light. The rich man reached the Truth, the sight of Christ, but could not partake of it, as Lazarus did. The poor Lazarus received "consolation," whereas the rich man received "anguish." Christ's words, that "They have Moses and the prophets …"--for those still in the world--signifies that we are all inexcusable. This doesn't imply that faith, or man's faithfulness to Christ is disregarded; faith is naturally a prerequisite, because our stance towards each other will show whether or not we have God inside us … the (seemingly pious) Pharisee justifies (sanctifies) himself and rejects (derogates) the Tax-collector … the elder brother(a repetition of the seemingly pious Pharisee) is sorrowful at the return (salvation) of his brother. Likewise seemingly pious, he too had false piety, which did not produce love. This stance reaches Christ's seat of judgment, and is evidenced as the criterion for our eternal life. The experience of Paradise or Hell is beyond words or the senses. It is an uncreated reality, and not a created one. The Franks created the myth that Paradise and Hell are both created realities.
It is a myth that the damned will not be looking upon God;
just as the "absence of God" is equally a myth. The Franks had also perceived
the fires of Hell as something created (e.g., Dante's Inferno). Orthodox
tradition has remained faithful to the Scriptural claim that the damned shall
see God (like the rich man of the parable), but will perceive Him only as "an
all-consuming fire." The Frankish scholastics accepted Hell as punishment and
the deprivation of a tangible vision of the divine essence. Biblically and
patristically however, "Hell" is understood as man's failure to collaborate
with Divine Grace, in order to reach the "illuminating" view of God (Paradise)
and selfless love (per 1 Corinthians 13:8): "love … does not demand any
reciprocation"). Consequently, there is no such thing as "God's absence," only
His presence. That is why His Second Coming is dire … It is an irrefutable
reality, toward which Orthodoxy is permanently oriented ("I anticipate
resurrection of the dead …")
The damned--those
who are depraved at heart, just like the Pharisees (Mark 3:5: "in the
callousness of their hearts")--eternally perceive the pyre of Hell as their salvation!
It is because their condition is not susceptible to any other form of
salvation. They too are "finalized"--they reach the end of their road--but only the righteous
reach the end of the road as saved persons. The others finish as damned. "Salvation"
to them is Hell, since in their lifetime, they pursued only pleasure. The rich
man of the parable had "enjoyed all of his riches." The poor Lazarus
uncomplainingly endured "every suffering." The Apostle Paul expresses this (1 Corinthians
3:13-15): "Each person's work, whatever it is, will be tested by fire. If their
work survives the test, then whatever they built, will be rewarded accordingly.
If one's work is burnt by the fire, then he will suffer losses; he shall be
saved, thus, as though by fire." The righteous and the unrepentant shall both
pass through the uncreated "fire" of divine presence, however, the one shall
pass through unscathed, while the other shall be burnt. He too is "saved," but
only in the way that one passes through a fire. Efthimios Zigavinos (12th
century) observes in this respect: "God as fire that illuminates and brightens
the pure, and burns and obscures the unclean." And Theodoritos Kyrou regarding
this "saving" writes: "One is also saved by fire, being tested by it," just as
when one passes through fire. If he has an appropriate protective cover, he
will not be burnt, otherwise, he may be "saved," but he will be charred!
Consequently, the fire of Hell has nothing in common with the Frankish "purgatory,"
nor is it created, nor is it punishment, or an intermediate stage. A viewpoint
such as this, is virtually a transferal of one's accountability to God. But the
accountability is entirely our own, whether we choose to accept or reject the
salvation (healing) that is offered by God. "Spiritual death" is the viewing of
the uncreated light, of divine glory, as a pyre, as fire. Saint John the
Chrysostom in his Ninth Homily on 1 Corinthians, notes: "Hell is never-ending …
sinners shall be judged into a never-ending suffering. As for the 'being burnt
altogether' it means this: that he does not withstand the strength of the fire."
And he continues: "And he (Paul) says, it means this: that he shall not be thus
burnt also--like
his works--into
nothingness, but he shall continue to exist, only inside that fire. He
therefore considers this as his 'salvation.' For it is customary for us to say 'saved
in the fire,' when referring to materials that are not totally burnt away." Scholastic
perceptions-interpretations, which, through Dante's work (Inferno) have
permeated our world, have consequences that amount to idolatrous views. An
example is the separation of Paradise and Hell as two different places. This
has happened, because they did not distinguish between the created and the
uncreated. Also, the denial of Hell's eternity, with their idea of the "restoration"
of everything, or the concept of a "good God" (Bon Dieu). God is indeed "benevolent":
(Matthew 8:17), since He offers salvation to everyone. ("He wants all to be
saved …" (1 Timothy 2:4) However, the words of our Lord as heard during the
funeral service are formidable: "I cannot do anything on my own; just as I
hear, thus I judge, and my judgment is fair." (John 5:30). Equally manufactured
is the concept of "theodicy," which
applies in this case. Everything is finally attributed to God alone (i.e., if
He intends to redeem or condemn), without taking into consideration man's "collaboration"
as a factor of redemption.Salvation is possible, only within the framework of
collaboration between man and Divine Grace.
According to the blessed Chrysostom, "the utmost, almost everything, is God's; He did however leave something little to us." That "little something" is our acceptance of God's invitation. The robber on the cross was saved, by "using the key request of 'remember me …'" Also idolatrous is the perception of a God becoming outraged against a sinner, whereas we mentioned earlier that God "never shows enmity." This is a juridical perception of God, which also leads to the prospect of "penances" in confessions as forms of punishment, and not as medications (means of healing) … The mystery of Paradise-Hell is also experienced in the life of the Church in the world. Besides, this lifetime is evaluated in the light of the twin criterion of Paradise-Hell. "Ask first for the kingdom of God and His righteousness," our Christ recommends (Matthew 6:33). Vasileios the Great tells the Young (Ch.3) "Everything we do is in preparation of another life." Our life must be a continuous preparation for our participation in "Paradise"--our community with the Uncreated (1 John 17:3).
And everything begins from this lifetime. That is why the Apostle Paul says: "Behold, now is the opportune time. Behold, now is the day of redemption." (2 Corinthians 6:2) Every moment of our lives is of redemptive importance. Either we gain eternity, the eternal community with God, or we lose it. This is why oriental religions and cults that preach reincarnations are injuring mankind: they are virtually transferring the problem to other, (nonexistent, of course) lifetimes. The thing is, however, that only one life corresponds to each of us, whether we are saved or condemned. This is why Vasileios continues: "… those things therefore that lead us towards that life, we need to say should be cherished and pursued with all our might; and those that do not lead us there, we should disregard, as something of no value." This is the criterion of Christian living. A Christian continuously chooses whatever favors his salvation. We gain Paradise or lose it and end up in Hell, in this lifetime. That is why John the Evangelist says: "Whomsoever believes in Him shall not be judged; whomsoever does not believe in Him, has already been judged, for not having believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God." (John 3:18) Consequently, the work of the church is not to "send" people to Paradise or to Hell, but to prepare them for the final judgment. The purpose of the Church's offered therapy is not to create "useful" citizens and essentially "usable" ones, but citizens of the celestial (uncreated) kingdom. Such citizens are the Martyrs, the true faithful, the saints.
However, this is also the way that our mission is
supervised: What are we inviting people to? To the Church as a Hospital/Therapy
Center, or just an ideology that is labelled "Christian?" More often than not,
we strive to secure a place in "Paradise," instead of striving to be healed.
That is why we focus on rituals and not on therapy. This of course does not
signify a rejection of worship. But, without ascesis (spiritual exercise,
ascetic lifestyle, act of therapy), worship cannot hallow us. The Grace that
pours forth from it remains inert inside us "… to prepare man, so that he may
forever look upon the Uncreated Grace and the Kingdom of Christ as Paradise,
and not as Hell." (Paradise and Hell According to Orthodox Tradition, by George
Metallinos Dean of the Athens University School of Theology)
Jesus told this parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man before
his death. Jesus had not died yet. Sin's debt had not been paid "once and for
all." This passage therefore does not show where a New Testament believer in
Christ will go, but rather where Old Testament believers would temporarily
exist. Remember that Abraham obeyed God, and it was "accounted to him for
righteousness." This parable gives us an insight to the waiting place of the
Old Testament believer; not the New Testament. This is not a proof text for the "now Hell" view. This does not relate to a present-day Christian. Looking at
the parable, I find several interesting points:
"I would also agree … that the last part of the passage is a key that Jesus wanted to drive home to the Pharisees. He wanted to kind of plant the seeds in their minds that they wouldn't believe even if someone were to come back from the grave and smack them up-side the head and say 'Look, I'm ba-ack'" (Witness of Grace)
Now I have answered all this using various sources from Christians of various denominations with ORTHODOX Christian views. God Bless! I hope this message was a Blessing to you.
In Christ Jesus,
Themis
A further note from Robert Barclay's Catechism and Confession of Faith
Question, What saith the Scripture of
the Resurrection of the Dead?
A. And have Hope towards God, which they themselves also allow, that there
shall be a Resurrection of the Dead, both of the Just and Unjust [Acts 24:15].
Q. To what different End shall the Good be
raised from the Bad? and how are they thereunto reserved?
A. Marvel not at this; for the Hour is coming, in the which all that are in the
Graves shall hear his Voice, and shall come forth; they that have done Good,
unto the Resurrection of Life; and they that have done Evil, unto the
Resurrection of Condemnation [John 5:28-29]. But the Heavens and the Earth,
which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto Fire against
the Day of Judgment, and Perdition of Ungodly Men [2 Pet. 3:7].
Q. What must be answered to such as ask how the Dead are raised; and with that
what Body?
A. Thou Fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened except it dye: and that
which thou sowest, thou sowest not that Body that shall be; but bare Grain, it
may chance of Wheat, or some other Grain: But God giveth it a Body as it hath
pleased him, and to every Seed his own Body.All Flesh is not the same Flesh;
but there is one kind of Flesh of Men, another Flesh of Beasts, another of
Fishes, and another of Birds: there are also Celestial Bodies, and Bodies
Terrestrial; but the Glory of the Celestial is one, and the Glory of the
Terrestrial is another: there is one Glory of the Sun, and another Glory of the
Moon, and another Glory of the Stars; for one Star differs from another Star in
Glory; so also is the Resurrection of the Dead; it is sown in Corruption, it is
raised in Incorruption; it is sown in Dishonour, it is raised in Glory; it is
sown in Weakness, it is raised in Power; it is sown a Natural Body, it is
raised a Spiritual Body: There is a Natural Body, and there is a Spiritual Body
[1 Cor. 15:36-44].
Q. The Apostle seems to be very positive that it is not that Natural Body,
which we now have, that shall rise, but a Spiritual Body?
A. Now this I say, Brethren, That Flesh and
Blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, neither doth Corruption inherit
Incorruption. Behold I shew you a Mystery, We shall not all sleep; but we shall
all be changed in a Moment, in the Twinkling of an Eye, at the last Trump (for
the Trumpet shall sound) and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall
be changed:For this Corruptible must put on Incorruption, and this Mortal must
put on Immortality: So when this Corruptible shall have put on Incorruption,
and this Mortal shall have put on Immortality, then shall be brought to pass
the Saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in Victory: O Death where is
thy Sting? O Grave where is thy Victory? [1 Cor. 15:50-55]" There shall be
a Resurrection of the Dead, both of the Just and Unjust [Acts 24:15] They that
have done Good, unto the Resurrection of Life; and they that have done Evil,
unto the Resurrection of Damnation [John 5:29] Flesh and Blood cannot inherit
the Kingdom of God, neither doth Corruption inherit Incorruption [1 Cor.
15:50]Nor is that Body sown that shall be; but God gives it a Body as it has
pleased him, and to every Seed his own Body: It is sown in Corruption, it is
raised in Incorruption; It is sown in Dishonor,it is raised in Glory; It is
sown in Weakness, it is raised in Power; It is sown a Natural Body, it is
raised a Spiritual Body. [1 Cor. 15:37-38,42-44]"